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Post by foxhuntingfriesian on Jul 20, 2011 13:14:25 GMT -5
In all my years of owning horses, I've never had as much of a challenge finding a good saddle fit as I have with Daatje. Anyone else find the same issues with their Friesians? I must have owned dozens of saddles over the past 6 years. What's everyone using for saddles on their guys? Here's what I currently have: Dressage - Ansur Carlton Jumping - Sensation G4 Jump Both of these are treeless and while I love the Carlton, I'm not so in love with the Sensation. Both work wonderfully with Daatje's back, but I'm not keen on the non-traditional appearance and feel of the Sensation saddle. So, I'm going to go back to the HDR Close Contact that I used to have, which worked well. So....what are you riding in?
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Post by friesngal on Jul 20, 2011 19:36:20 GMT -5
I only do dressage, no jumping. I ride in an Albion Platinum Ultima adjustable. It is a medium wide. I'm pretty happy with it. I bought it used from www.fineusedsaddles.com. It's wool flocked so it has been adjusted for him. I'm like you though, I'm always wondering if there is something better for both Nylis and me. Recently there was a discussion on the Chronicle of the Horse dressage board on favorite saddles. The top ones mentioned were the Albion, Trilogy Verago and several people loved their Lovatt & Ricketts dressage saddle. Here is a link to the discussion list: www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312632(I don't think you have to be a member or subscriber to view, hopefully it will work.) I had a County, I was not happy with it, it put my legs in a chair seat. I tried the Fryso and it did weird things to my thigh area. I tried a Lauriche and its seat was too open, I need a deeper seat for my big moving horse. Now I have the Albion. Kathy
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Post by All Things Friesian on Jul 21, 2011 7:08:10 GMT -5
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Post by foxhuntingfriesian on Jul 21, 2011 7:45:49 GMT -5
I've ridden in Fryso's and unfortunately, they're not made for me! I can't stand them so I never bothered to try one on Daatje.
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Post by foxhuntingfriesian on Jul 21, 2011 7:50:09 GMT -5
Friesngal, I do frequent COTH, although not much in the dressage forum. I'll check that thread out. I've tried most of the saddles you mentioned! The only dressage saddle I haven't tried on her that might work and I know I like is the KN Symphonie. Love those saddles and have used them on Friesians before....
Anyone else collect tack? I must have a dozen bridles, currently three saddles and an army of pads all for one horse! Too funny.
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Post by teamo11 on Jul 26, 2011 8:22:54 GMT -5
Hi All, My saddle quest went on for a over a year! But we have swayback issues. I now have a Schleese dressage - the Wave. An older model 2008. It's fits both of us pretty well and the GREAT customer service of Saddle Fit 4 Life cant be beat. Pricey of course. They had a new model come out end of last year but it was just beyond my purse. YES!!!! I collect tack good grief I have 5 saddle pads, 3 head stalls. I also have a bareback saddle - I call it Tiemen's "sandals" from Australian Stock Saddle Company.
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Post by featheredhorse on Jul 29, 2011 15:55:42 GMT -5
Hi All, First, I have to let you know that I own The Feathered Horse so that you can keep my comments in context.
The Fryso saddle was designed by friesian owners specifically for the friesian horse. They own a tack store and stock many of the the well known brands of saddles. They were not satisfied with what was on the market so they developed the Fryso line of saddles using there own horses as the foundation.
Most folks in the US have only seen one model of the Fryso, The Legacy. The Legacy is, by far, the most popular model worldwide but there are another 6 models available. Additionally, the Legacy has gone through revisions and if you haven't ridden in one lately, you might be surprised.
The Fryso saddle models range from varying depths of seat in dressage to all purpose and jumping. I ride in the Fryso Lux, which I love. It has a deep seat and an adjustable stirrup bar that helps adjust your hip angle. The front billet strap comes out of the bottom of the knee roll allowing the saddle to wrap around the shoulder. The rear billet strap comes from the seat at an angle securing the back of the saddle. The underflap angles back slightly from the shoulder to free the movement. I love this saddle! I had previously been riding in a Prestige 2000D which I loved but the Fryso Lux has made a big difference for my girl.
All Fryso saddles come in tree size 2-7 and seat size 16-19.
You can also consider the Lovatt and Ricketts saddles for baroque horses. They developed a saddle tree for the horse with the broad shoulder and it fots our friesians well. There is a cutbak saddle for saddleseat riders and a very nice dressage saddle. Another disclaimer: I sell this line of saddle.
The Lovatt and Ricketts saddles come in tree sizes medium, wide and extra wide and seat sizes 16-19
I truly hope I am not offending anyone by my shameless promotion but I couldn't not throw my opinion in the discussion:))))
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Post by friesngal on Jul 29, 2011 20:10:30 GMT -5
I'm so glad you wrote Feathered Horse! I have heard so often that the Fryso is made for the Friesian horse, and I admit that I just don't get what that means. Not trying to nit pick or anything, but from what I've seen, the major dressage saddle lines such as Albion and Trilogy and others have varying sizes and cuts and so forth. They are wool flocked so can be adjusted once the tree is fitted properly. So I'm just not sure about the Fryso and what in particular about Friesians is so different from some of the rather enormous warmbloods who are at my barn that the Fryso is better for them?? Nylis isn't even in the widest tree for his Albion, the widest one was too big and slid around on his back! Do you know what the design features are of the Fryso that make it for the Friesian/better for them than other makes? My personal experience with it was that it was uncomfortable and it put my leg in the wrong place. I did try to like it, I rode in it for almost a year and it just didn't work. I sold it to another Friesian owner who also turned out not to like it and she's in Albion now too. That was about 6 years ago, it was a Legacy and yes it was pricey! Around $2000 or so, but other new dressage saddles can go well into the $3,000+ range new. I have a friend with an L&R and she likes it quite a bit, for her non-Friesian, Quarter horse. He's broad backed too.
Thanks very much!
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Post by teamo11 on Aug 1, 2011 11:45:45 GMT -5
Feathered Horse.I too am glad you wrote. I need to call you to discuss. Thanks! Debbi
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Post by victoria on Aug 7, 2011 14:23:51 GMT -5
My girl goes very well in an Ideal saddle model jessica dressage saddle
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Post by friesianfan69 on Aug 10, 2011 7:25:05 GMT -5
I have the issabelle Werth dressage saddle in xwide, love it!
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Post by crystal thunder on Aug 10, 2011 12:50:03 GMT -5
I ride my boy in a thorowgood T6 dressage cob, it has an interchangeable gullet and so it also fits my arab with a different size gullet in it!! Bargain!! ;D
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Post by Tina on Jun 29, 2015 1:59:36 GMT -5
WOW! Over 2000+ views for this topic. Has anyone any new / resent experiences with the (latest) saddles? I have difficulties to find one that will work on my mare. She is sore back from the ill fitting saddle she came with. Now we don't have one and she won't do bareback at the moment. I lunge her and she likes to pull carriages. I have tried albion, kieffer, passier, etc. Nothing is board enough for the withers. friesngal this video explains what it means that saddle is designed for the friesians. Knowledge will add the pain of understanding that friesians are not made for saddles www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ7bWH8E6a8
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Post by Cyndi on Jun 18, 2017 9:57:05 GMT -5
As a retired saddle fitter, the fit is in the tree. If you don't have the correct tree configuration no amount of gullet adjusting or flocking will matter. I have a Friesian with a custom made Borne. It's her 3rd custom because at 21 she has changed her body shape over the years. Friesians have as many different shapes as do other breeds---please find a qualified saddle fitter who is dedicated to fitting your horse instead of just making a sale. A well fitting saddle is worth every penny you pay.....you wouldn't wear shoes that don't fit--would you? Maybe you would for a little while--but not for long. Pay the fitter or pay the vet later. Do it for the love for your horse!
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